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4Get 2 4Bet Me said:

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(disclaimer: I am only speaking of my own opinions and I do not necessarily represent the opinions of the Twitter Poker Tour, it's sponsors, any other Mods or Admins. I voiced my opinion, and only my opinion. If you want someone to be mad at, be mad at me.)

Well, first I think you're being a bit unfair here. I show up once or twice a month because A) I had no money on FTP for several months, and B) when I do, the 6 PM start time is nearly impossible for someone on the west coast who also has a job to get to. So maybe, as Maynard once said, Jump down, get off your fucking cross. I support the TPT whole heartedly and have been part of it since the start. I was part of the planning for the first event; I may even be the reason it's at 9 PM instead of 8. Just cuz I'm not here for every game, and just because I don't make 300 posts a year in the forum doesn't mean I'm not supporting the TPT.

There, that little bit of incensed ranting done, I agree whole heartedly: this thing should grow if the guys who are financially invested want to actually make it a business instead of a hobby. But as I mentioned earlier, there is more to do than just sending an email to http://FTP…do just that and, Flea, you will NEVER get over the hump. Make a choice: is this a business or a lark? Make that choice then be happy with the decision one way or the other. I for one will be supporting you as long as you don't insult me for not putting every dollar I have in my roll into a tournament that wins a prize for an event that I can't even attend. Having said that, if the WSOP sattys were to start today i'd probably enter them.

Things that work:

1: Grass roots promotion does work. The people who do retweet should continue to do so. Also inviting non twitter people into twitter and the tpt can be done.

2: The audio stream is the nuts! Keep that at all costs…maybe find a way to market it a bit more tho. If you are able to get someone of some celebrity to join in have them tweet the shit out of it for you if they will. Any thought of making a regular radio show? You guys are pretty good on air. Not as good as I would be of course, but that goes without saying.

3: Points prizes are the shit. That is awesome, and I almost skipped out on my heart surgery rehab this past thursday and tomorrow just to earn some points.

Some thoughts on growth:

1: The prize structure might be keeping some people away. The prize structure is a bit harsh…to play thru 50 or 60 people and only have 4 get paid makes the EV a bit worse than most. This is fine for us and as a challenge, but I bet if you guaranteed ten payouts regardless of entry (er, over say 40 I guess) and then went to standard FTP 10% of entrants paid over 100 you would increase players over a short period.

2: What is the reason for the pw? How does that entice casual FTP'ers to come play? If there's a reason for it, great, but if it's just there to keep this tourney exclusive…well, that might explain a bit why growth is so slow…just saying.

3: Please don't take this as an outright criticism and still I may get skewered for this, but I feel the TPT website could use an overhaul. I'm not offering, i couldn't code HTML to save my life, but the color scheme and layout is not the most intuitive. No disrespect intended here, it's an impressive site…but if you want to bring in casual users you need to pander to the LCD (Lowest Common Denominator, or Street3 as it's sometimes called )

4: Show more boobs.

I agree with most all that Twitchy67 said. The only reason I don't play as much is because the game does not end until the next day.

I still follow all of you that are on twitter and I do read the forum topics from time to time.

I am willing to support the TPT the tweeting, re-tweeting, and blogging if that will help.

I think that tying in with FTP might be good. Having the pros play from time to time is quite a draw.

Whatever I can do, just let me know.

Looking forward to the HORSE event on the 16th.

BTW, adding mix games like that might be a great draw.

Just my two cents!

4Get 2 4Bet Me said:

After looking it over, I think it is pretty fair, and probably a lot more attractive to weaker players since they don't have to go as deep to be ITM.

I've always felt weak players prefer less payouts cuz they can play spray and pray poker and hit a bigger winfall. I agree this probably appeals to less confident players for the reason u mentioned, but I would think it would also appeal to more serious players because they understand that you only win a certain percentage of tourneys; no matter how good u play bad luck, bad beats and set ups happen. Increasing the payouts just increases your odds of winning thus elevating your ev. I remember once on Poker Road radio the question was asked "if you were told you would hit bottom payout level and thats it in every tournament you ever played or would win on your regular frequency, which would u take?" They all said the bottom cash, everyone of them. That was Sebok, Gavin Smith and the guest, I can't remember who but I do remember it was someone fairly big. The logic makes sense.