Turn: (t3600) A(2 players) Hero bets t2798 all in, BB calls t2040 all in
"You’re better than him …maybe not by a lot, but, a little. You’re the patron saint of the totally
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10:00 pm January 11, 2010
rhoegg
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Preflop: have you been very active, or is the BB likely to reshove you? If not, why not raise 2.25-2.5x to inflate the pot with your ace? This makes flops easier to play.
Flop: why such a small bet? Is your purpose to get value from worse hands or to make better hands fold? Either way, I think a larger bet is in order. Since you're out of position here, and you limped the ace, I think a check-shove might be a better line here, as you have two streets to hit your spade if he shows up with a J or calls with a 6.
Turn: shove and celebrate if he calls, standard play. Maybe if you really think he's weak you can check-call his shove here to induce bluffs. But his raise on the flop tells me he hit something here, so I prefer to shove myself.
10:02 pm January 11, 2010
rhoegg
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rhoegg said:
Preflop: have you been very active, or is the BB likely to reshove you? If not, why not raise 2.25-2.5x to inflate the pot with your ace? This makes flops easier to play.
Flop: why such a small bet? Is your purpose to get value from worse hands or to make better hands fold? Either way, I think a larger bet is in order. Since you're out of position here, and you limped the ace, I think a check-shove might be a better line here, as you have two streets to hit your spade if he shows up with a J or calls with a 6.
Turn: shove and celebrate if he calls, standard play. Maybe if you really think he's weak you can check-call his shove here to induce bluffs. But his raise on the flop tells me he hit something here, so I prefer to shove myself.
Also, since you posted he hand I assume he showed up with a flopped flush or 2 pair or something and beat you? I stand by my more aggressive line here though, whatever the results were.
9:00 am January 12, 2010
cprpoker
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rhoegg said:
Preflop: have you been very active, or is the BB likely to reshove you? If not, why not raise 2.25-2.5x to inflate the pot with your ace? This makes flops easier to play.
Flop: why such a small bet? Is your purpose to get value from worse hands or to make better hands fold? Either way, I think a larger bet is in order. Since you're out of position here, and you limped the ace, I think a check-shove might be a better line here, as you have two streets to hit your spade if he shows up with a J or calls with a 6.
Turn: shove and celebrate if he calls, standard play. Maybe if you really think he's weak you can check-call his shove here to induce bluffs. But his raise on the flop tells me he hit something here, so I prefer to shove myself.
He wasn't too aggressive and I thought I'd limp in. I didn't want to bloat the pot with a A-rag off.
I bet 1/2 pot into my draw oop, but in hindsight I see a big raise there and maybe try to get in on the flop.
Turn I think is standard.
Results don't matter much in this hand. I am more going for thoughts on my play shorthanded OOP.
Thanks!!
PS: I'll post results in a bit.
"You’re better than him …maybe not by a lot, but, a little. You’re the patron saint of the totally
f*cked, you’re completely toxic, there’s nothing you can’t kill. You’re the violator. You can be the hero."
1:08 pm January 12, 2010
CoolWhipFlea
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I think that I check this flop, because I have nothing but the draw, and a bet leaves me open to the re-raise (which happened here). But I probably check call just about any bet here from this guy outside of a shove. I doubt he's going to stick it all in, especially if he's flopped the flush, because he wouldn't want to lose you. But any other monster, like AA or KK or QQ, may stick this in. I think a flopped set also leads out, or raises you, so a check/call seems the most prudent play.
As played, with the turn, I think I still check here as well. I still have the nut flush draw, and top pair, but with a weak kicker. If he sticks it in w/ AK (w/Ks would make sense) or something like that, I'm getting pretty decent pot odds to make the call. But I'm committing almost all of my chips to this pot, and when I look back at it, A5os is not the kind of hand that I want to get all my chips in with.
That said, I probably still make the call. I don't mind going broke here all that much, but I'd probably beat myself up a bit afterward if I didn't bink a spade on the river.
Turn: (t3600) A(2 players) Hero bets t2798 all in, BB calls t2040 all in
River: (t7680) J(2 players – 2 are all in)
Final Pot: t7680 Hero shows A 5 (two pair, Aces and Jacks) BB shows Q J (three of a kind, Jacks) BB wins t7680
So he had 5 outs to improve to trips or 2 pair and he spikes the J on the river.
What do we think of Villains play here? When I push on the turn he needs to call 2040 to win 6398 which is 3 to 1. Does villain think he is good here better than 25% of the time to make this a profitable call?
Here is the pokerstove for this hand at the turn:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
44 games 0.001 secs 44,000 games/sec
Board: 6s 3s Js Ac Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 90.909% 90.91% 00.00% 40 0.00 { As5d } Hand 1: 09.091% 09.09% 00.00% 4 0.00 { QhJh }
Thoughts?
"You’re better than him …maybe not by a lot, but, a little. You’re the patron saint of the totally
f*cked, you’re completely toxic, there’s nothing you can’t kill. You’re the violator. You can be the hero."
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